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Groovy out of date in github

Sargis
Hi all, I wanted to fork groovy and find out that its out of date,
here is URL:

http://github.com/groovy/groovy

and last commit in 2009-03-18, any plane to update it? It will be nice
to have it with GIT i think much easier to contribute projects and
much easier to fork and play/work with projects.

Regards.

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Re: Groovy out of date in github

Guillaume Laforge-4
Hi,

This account was a first experiment with Git, but it's indeed outdated
-- no hooks in place to update it automatically to follow Groovy's SVN
repo.
At some point this year, we will migrate from SVN to Git, on Codehaus'
git infrastructure.
So it'll certainly be easier to play/fork it.

Guillaume

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:52, Sargis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all, I wanted to fork groovy and find out that its out of date,
> here is URL:
>
> http://github.com/groovy/groovy
>
> and last commit in 2009-03-18, any plane to update it? It will be nice
> to have it with GIT i think much easier to contribute projects and
> much easier to fork and play/work with projects.
>
> Regards.
>
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Sargis
Hi,  with github is really nice to checkout to try code, changing
something and commit in your fork.
Its like pushing you to do something :) really.

Thanks for response.

On Jun 30, 10:05 am, Guillaume Laforge <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This account was a first experiment with Git, but it's indeed outdated
> -- no hooks in place to update it automatically to follow Groovy's SVN
> repo.
> At some point this year, we will migrate from SVN to Git, on Codehaus'
> git infrastructure.
> So it'll certainly be easier to play/fork it.
>
> Guillaume
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:52, Sargis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi all, I wanted to fork groovy and find out that its out of date,
> > here is URL:
>
> >http://github.com/groovy/groovy
>
> > and last commit in 2009-03-18, any plane to update it? It will be nice
> > to have it with GIT i think much easier to contribute projects and
> > much easier to fork and play/work with projects.
>
> > Regards.
>
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> Groovy Project Manager
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Re: Groovy out of date in github

Russel Winder
Sargis,

Apart from the fact that I think Git sucks in comparison to Bazaar and
Mercurial . . .

On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 01:25 -0700, Sargis wrote:
> Hi,  with github is really nice to checkout to try code, changing
> something and commit in your fork.
> Its like pushing you to do something :) really.
>
> Thanks for response.

I maintain a manually updated mirror of Groovy on GitHub, and there is a
automated Bazaar branch mirror on Launchpad.  I try and refresh at least
each morning so it should be fairly up to date.

> On Jun 30, 10:05 am, Guillaume Laforge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This account was a first experiment with Git, but it's indeed outdated
> > -- no hooks in place to update it automatically to follow Groovy's SVN
> > repo.
> > At some point this year, we will migrate from SVN to Git, on Codehaus'
> > git infrastructure.
> > So it'll certainly be easier to play/fork it.

The sooner the repository moves from Subversion on Codehaus to Git on
Codehaus, the better.    Pragmatically though, I don't actually care as
I use Bazaar, Mercurial and Git as Subversion clients anyway ;-)

> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:52, Sargis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi all, I wanted to fork groovy and find out that its out of date,
> > > here is URL:
> >
> > >http://github.com/groovy/groovy
> >
> > > and last commit in 2009-03-18, any plane to update it? It will be nice
> > > to have it with GIT i think much easier to contribute projects and
> > > much easier to fork and play/work with projects.

See above :-)
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Sargis
Its too individual which one is better there are a lot of such
discussion in net about this. personally me like git more than
mercurial. Never tried bazaar.
But in groovy-user group I think is not right place do discuss which
SCM/DSCM is better :-).

Regards.

On Jun 30, 12:32 pm, Russel Winder <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Sargis,
>
> Apart from the fact that I think Git sucks in comparison to Bazaar and
> Mercurial . . .
>
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 01:25 -0700, Sargis wrote:
> > Hi,  with github is really nice to checkout to try code, changing
> > something and commit in your fork.
> > Its like pushing you to do something :) really.
>
> > Thanks for response.
>
> I maintain a manually updated mirror of Groovy on GitHub, and there is a
> automated Bazaar branch mirror on Launchpad.  I try and refresh at least
> each morning so it should be fairly up to date.
>
> > On Jun 30, 10:05 am, Guillaume Laforge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > This account was a first experiment with Git, but it's indeed outdated
> > > -- no hooks in place to update it automatically to follow Groovy's SVN
> > > repo.
> > > At some point this year, we will migrate from SVN to Git, on Codehaus'
> > > git infrastructure.
> > > So it'll certainly be easier to play/fork it.
>
> The sooner the repository moves from Subversion on Codehaus to Git on
> Codehaus, the better.    Pragmatically though, I don't actually care as
> I use Bazaar, Mercurial and Git as Subversion clients anyway ;-)
>
> > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:52, Sargis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > Hi all, I wanted to fork groovy and find out that its out of date,
> > > > here is URL:
>
> > > >http://github.com/groovy/groovy
>
> > > > and last commit in 2009-03-18, any plane to update it? It will be nice
> > > > to have it with GIT i think much easier to contribute projects and
> > > > much easier to fork and play/work with projects.
>
> See above :-)
> --
> Russel.
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Russel Winder
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 03:58 -0700, Sargis wrote:
> Its too individual which one is better there are a lot of such
> discussion in net about this. personally me like git more than
> mercurial. Never tried bazaar.
> But in groovy-user group I think is not right place do discuss which
> SCM/DSCM is better :-).

Discussions on this have been rumbling since 2005!

With Codehaus having chosen to support Git and not Mercurial or Bazaar,
Groovy has only two directions to go:  stay with Subversion and suffer
the hassles of using a versioned filestore as a project version control
system; or switch to Git.  No contest really.  The only question is when
to make the change and how to extract all the bits currently in the
repository as separate projects.

The core problem here is that the Subversion repository, like the CVS
before it has been structured in a way not compatible with having each
module as a separate tree.  This means either continuing the extant
structure in Git and suffering all the lack of goodness, or
restructuring the Groovy hierarchy before switching to Git.  This
requires having a good structure and then transforming to it.  Such a
thing can only be contemplated as a major release.  So things could
happen in trunk for 1.8.0, since there is a 1.7.x maintenance branch.

The problem is that the easiest way forward is to continue as is . . .
 
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Sargis
I understand your point of view about migrating to GIT from
subversion, we did the same in our company and you need to split your
project into more
modular subsystem otherwise you will have one big module and it will
be painful to make branch on whole module to change something in one
of the subsystem.

As I know and for me Git not supporting very well working with many
modules as part of one big project and probably you need to write some
customs scripts to
manage it like did google to manage android repo.

http://source.android.com/source/git-repo.html

I like concept of github: "social coding" as I know there is such
hosting for mercurial as well, any case my point of view to have
possibility easily to fork to try code, to commit in your branch to
send patches will help groovy community and other projects as well.

On Jun 30, 1:21 pm, Russel Winder <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 03:58 -0700, Sargis wrote:
> > Its too individual which one is better there are a lot of such
> > discussion in net about this. personally me like git more than
> > mercurial. Never tried bazaar.
> > But in groovy-user group I think is not right place do discuss which
> > SCM/DSCM is better :-).
>
> Discussions on this have been rumbling since 2005!
>
> With Codehaus having chosen to support Git and not Mercurial or Bazaar,
> Groovy has only two directions to go:  stay with Subversion and suffer
> the hassles of using a versioned filestore as a project version control
> system; or switch to Git.  No contest really.  The only question is when
> to make the change and how to extract all the bits currently in the
> repository as separate projects.
>
> The core problem here is that the Subversion repository, like the CVS
> before it has been structured in a way not compatible with having each
> module as a separate tree.  This means either continuing the extant
> structure in Git and suffering all the lack of goodness, or
> restructuring the Groovy hierarchy before switching to Git.  This
> requires having a good structure and then transforming to it.  Such a
> thing can only be contemplated as a major release.  So things could
> happen in trunk for 1.8.0, since there is a 1.7.x maintenance branch.
>
> The problem is that the easiest way forward is to continue as is . . .
>
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> Russel.
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Re: Groovy out of date in github

Guillaume Laforge-4
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 13:21, Russel Winder <[hidden email]> wrote:
> [...]
> Discussions on this have been rumbling since 2005!

I'd even say *YOU* have been rumbling a lot since then :-D

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